Petrolicious Did A Video Of One Of My Dream Cars

"Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2" (pompei426) 02/12/2014 at 15:56 • Filed to: None

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A pro-touring 1967 Plymouth Barracuda. This is heavenly.

BeaterGT > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 02/12/2014 at 16:23

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Love the Barracuda. One car I wish they won't revive in Barracuda or Cuda form.

crowmolly > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 02/12/2014 at 16:25

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Preface: It's a nice car. And the owner seems really cool.

But 15" wheels with Radial T/As? Carbed? Disc drum? Stock suspension?

An OD trans does not a pro-touring car make.

Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 > crowmolly 02/12/2014 at 16:34

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I knew it was a stretch, but I like how everything is kept original-looking.

crowmolly > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 02/12/2014 at 16:36

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He did a great job, there's no argument there. Car is probably tons of fun.

Casper > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 02/12/2014 at 16:36

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Looks like a fun, nice car, and the guy seems cool.

grommit09 > crowmolly 02/12/2014 at 16:36

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I think that's a subjective title. A manual trans with suspension and brakes geared more towards the handling side of things does make a pro-touring car in my opinion, even if it is period correct and not decked out with EFI and chrome-moly suspension.

crowmolly > grommit09 02/12/2014 at 16:41

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So a stock '69 Z would be a pro touring car? I'm just sayin'... this is a nice car but it doesn't quite fit the archetype.

I hoon, therefore I am > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 02/12/2014 at 16:53

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These would help . OE-looking, modern sizing. Also, OE suspension does not a PT car make.

grommit09 > crowmolly 02/12/2014 at 16:54

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Sure.
Pro-stock—————stock—-^———-pro-touring
It's pretty much just the spectrum of how you would modify a car for a particular type of performance gain. Sure, that barracuda may be about right at the arrow on that spectrum, but I don't really think that IRS retrofits and 18 inch wheels are necessary to use the term "pro-touring" when describing a particular build. I think if you were to add an OD trans and z-rated tires to an otherwise factory Z28 or Boss 302, you'd be squarely in pro-touring territory.

J. Walter Weatherman > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 02/12/2014 at 16:59

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I, too, have a soft spot for that generation of 'Cudas, but I much prefer them in notchback form.

Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 > J. Walter Weatherman 02/12/2014 at 17:04

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I prefer the fastback only because the notch can look a bit like a Corvair.

crowmolly > grommit09 02/12/2014 at 17:08

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I guess we just have different views on the subject.

The way I see it you don't need to have a "named project" like the Mule, Twister, Maltidute, etc or have $4000 brakes and a $10,000 turbo engine, but there are some fundamental changes that need to be made. Starting with upgrades to the poor 60's suspensions that these cars have. Some of these cars didn't even come with sway bars! Stock my '69 Camaro had an 11/16ths bar. That's a 17mm bar for a 3400 lb V8 Camaro. Swapping to a 1 1/8 bar was like a shot of nitrous to the suspension.

A stock 60's car with an OD trans and Z rated tires is just another 60's car that gets better mileage with expensive rubber. Handling is improved very slightly if at all, which doesn't fit the theme.

JMHO of course. I like the discussion!

Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 02/12/2014 at 23:10

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Hat tip to Chrysler to getting such great handling out of torsion bars.